Module Based Learning for understanding Aqeedah Differences between Ashari-Maturidi Vs Slaafis

In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

 Assalaamu `alaykum waRahmatullahi Wabarakatuhu

To Understand the Actual Issue between Ashari-Maturidi Vs Slafis Following is the chronology of events and Issues.

These heading/Modules has been arranged in a way to convey the message .

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Although in Fiqh there was difference of opinion and four School of thought but in Aqeedah it was only one.

 There was no difference in Aqeedah till 200-300 Hijri.(850-950 A.C) There was no Ashari-Maturidi or Salafi School of thought.

MODULE 1 

HOW THE EVENTS STARTED of Ashari-Maturidi Vs Slafi?

Arrival of Deviated Sects under influence of Greek Philosphy around 300 Hijri. 

These Deviated Sect were led by Muatazellah.

Influence of Muatazellah on the Muslim Rulers.There rise at the time of Mamun and Muatasim kingship

Majority of Ulema  Under Pressure from King became silent against Deviated Sects in KHALQE QURAN ISSUE ( except few  greats like Imam Ahmad and Imam Muhammad)

MODULE 2  Arrival Of Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal Rahimullah

Arrival of Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal for final debate. General Muslims were with Imam Ahmad.They raised his moral to face hardship for the cause of Islam.(Many incidents Imam Ahmad himself has narrated and written in his books please read and cry with joy.....I am also crying while writing these lines)

Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal Solely fighting the Whole Band of Corrupted Scholar backed by Muslim Rulers.

Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal victory in his en-devour.And dies. The King finally became his Follower

MODULE 3 After Imam Ahmad 

Again Muatazillah came after becoming logically stronger in their Corrupted Ideology

They gained Momentum even more than earlier.

Imam Abul Hasan Ashari was himself Muatazellah Initially.He was step son of a big muatazellah leader.

MODULE 4 Arrival of Imam Abul hasan Ashari in Ahle Sunnat Side

Allah turned the heart of Imam Ashari to Ahle Sunnat AFTER 15 YEARS BEING Mutazellah

He announced his departure from Muatazellah in Mosque before Friday Prayer.

He started direct Ideological onslaught on Muatazellah.

MODULE 5 Abul Hasan Ashari  Used two way Approach.

First Part of his Approach

Second Part of his Approach 

He established the Supermacy of Ahle Sunnat Stand over Muatazillah

Imam Abu Mansur Maturidi

After Abul Hasan Ashari Imam Maturidi did some Refinement of the work. Very minimal difference. Both accept each other.It is more a new edition rather than a new work.

MODULE 6 The only significant difference between Ashari-Maturidi Vs Slafi Aqeedah is in description of Attributes of Allah (Correct explanation of some of the Ayats and Hadith) 

Sahaba Position on Attributes of Alah

Slafus Slaehin Scholars Position on Attributes of Allah and their Advise to muslim scholars/general Muslims on this issue

Imam Malik Position and Advice

Imam Tahawi Advice

Imam Shafaee Advice

MODULE 7 Salafi accusation on Ashari Maturidi is of Taweel. (The word 'ta'weel' is from a-w-l, which means 'to return, to revert,' which implies going back to the original meaning of a word to see what its meanings and connotations are. )

What is Taweel?

Taweel was done by Imam Abul Hasan not out of fun rather out of necessity.

Imam has himself Clarified his Position in his book.

Present Day Ashari-Maturidi Scholar are not doing Taweel

MODULE 8 Who are Present day Ashari Maturidi Position on Taweel. 

What is position of Present day scholars of Ashari Maturidi on Taweel.

Present day scholars are not doing Taweel. They have declared in many Fatwa.

 They ARE only telling that when it was done by Abul Hasan Ashari  it was right as the situation was like this in 300 hijri.It was done to quell the Ideological Fitnah of Muatazellah.

There Fatawa about not doing Taweel.

Evidence 1 that present day Scholars are not doing Taweel

Evidence 2 that present day Scholars are not doing Taweel

MODULE 9 Ashari Maturidi accusation on Salafi is of Tajseem 
(attributing creation like characteristics to Allah in description like hand Eyes) .Slaf Position for these Ayats has already come earlier.

Some Criticism are there that Ibne Taimmiya Rahimullah has exceeded the limits and has entered into Tajseem. But Ibne Taimmiya himself has strongly denied it.


Majority of Salafi Scholars are not doing Tajseem.


A small minority has exceeded the limit and has written ambiguous sentences that indicate Tajseem.


Main Reason is their over Refutation of Taweel with examples led to this fault 

MODULE 10 Actually Ashari- Maturidi Vs Slafi dispute is Nothing to do with Aqeedah

Islamic Aqeedah is very clear

Classical text like Aqeedatut Tahawi is sufficient for a Muslim to be perfect in Aqeedah.

MODEL Slafus Salehin Position was not to go into this philosphical detail

No need for a Muslim to go into these Philosphical Logical debate.

These are nothing to do with basic tents of Islamic Faith.

These are not more than a Fitnah

MODULE 12 When Ashari not doing Taweel and Salafi not doing Tajseem Why there is verbal fighting.

Mainstream actual Greats of Ashari and Salfi are not doing Taweel or Tajseem Respectively

MODULE 13 First Tier Great Scholars are not Fighting. 

They have Harmonious relation (Ex.Sheikh Ibne Baaz (Salafi) & Sheikh Abul Hasan Nadvi (Ashari-Maturidi,Hanafi,Soofi) used to Co chair Rabta Islami meeting

Second tier Scholars are learned people busy with Other Islamic work. Working on Positive front OF Dawah Taleem etc.Have very little interaction with scholars of other school. Minimal or no relation with internet/ direct contact with public.

MODULE 14 Verbal Fighting is in between 3rd Tier Scholar/ Non Scholars with strong group Affliation

Third tier Scholars are on internet/ Publishing books/Making you tube videos.

They are directly connected to People of their respective groups. 

Majority of them even don’t know good Arabic to understand classical Text.

They have not gone deep to the classical text and historical Background to understand the whole issue. 

Their deficiency in Taqwa is another big issue. 

Some of them are working as paid employee of some individual Muslim/organization for the sole purpose of maligning other Scholars and group. 

Some are for easy Popularity. 

Most of them have no contribution to the any field of Islam except these issues.

MODULE 15 They are mostly busy in attacking other for secterian gain /Groupism under cover of Aqeedah.

(Don’t be amzed History repeats itself. It has happened in past in Umma. Read the history of salfussalehin like Imam Abu Haneefa, Imam Ahmad, Imam Ibne Taimmiya. 

Read the history why Abu Hayyan (An scholar of Nahu at his time ) became the foremost opposer of Ibne Taimiyya Rahimullah….....ohhhhhhhhhh). 

MODULE 16 Some Islamic TV Channels/ English Urdu speaking scholars has indirectly contributed to make it complex.

They are mostly good people.

Shaitan has filled a sense in them that they are only servicing Islam

Dont blame them They are good people Shaitan has played special trick with them

They criticise other groups for some reson/Donot  go with opinion of a particular Fiqh prevalent in the country. it cause mistrust and widen the divide.

Suppose Some one is criticizing Hanafi Fiqh and most of the Hanafi are Ashari-Maturidi so it does not take time that other make it an Aqeedah issues.

Classical example is .................................

Module 17 There is a lot of General Muslims/ Non Scholar is involved on internet /Face book/TV Channels/You tube

There is a lot of Aam Admi (General Public) Non Scholar with different level of Understanding , Temperament who has seen videos of these third tier leaders. 

They have read only the writing of these third layer scholars/slamic TV Channels/ Urdu English speaking scholars  

They don’t understand the issues. 

Rather they understand that other group is Mushrik/Baatil Aqeedah/Deviated/Twisting Hadith according to wish/Just short of Kafir/Some even declare Kafir. 

MODULE 18 Aqeedah is a emotional and Basic Isuue that why they correlate all differences to make Aqeedah Isuues.

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POSITION OF AHLE SUNNAT AGAINST MUATAZILLA Deviated Sects

POSITION OF AHLE SUNNAT AGAINST MUATAZELLA 

1.In 2-3 hundred Hijri so many deviated and wrong Aqeeda thought came to islamic intellectual circle under the influence of greek philosphy.Muatazelis were most prominent among them as they got patronage from Abbasi Khaleefa Mammon and Moatasim

To counter the wrong Aqeeda and approach of Muatazeli ,and others deviated groups, Ahle sunnat Wal Jamaat side was initially led by Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal(R.A) and the final assult was led by Imam Abul Hasan Ali Ashari (R.A) (Born in 260 Hijri).Imam Abul Hasan Ashari actually has put the final nail in the coffin of Muatazilla.

Muslim Ummah between 200-300 Hijri

           The danger was very acute and eminent, with the help of Muslim king Mamoon and Muatasim the follower of greek philosophy in the name of Muatazila etc had became successful in influencing good number of intellectual class/philosopher/thinker of muslim Ummah. Our Intellectual started coming under the impression that Greek philosophy is superior and they started making yardstick of it to judge the principles of Quran and Ahadith.

 Gravity of the situation of muslim Intellectual as there were influenced by greek philosphy and terrified by the Rulers (Mamoon and Muatasim)

All the Muslim intellectuals were influenced and terrified.One can assess the gravity of the situation by this historical fact. Maulana Abul Hasan Ali Nadwi describe in these words “ Famous Ulema were collected and talked and written statement and answer were taken ,Mamoon became very furious after seeing the answer,And ordered to kill two (Shaikh Baseer ibne waleed & Sheikh Ibrahim Ibnul Menhdi) of them.And ordered that all those who still have aqeeda other than Khalqe Quran should be brought infront of him.They were 30,But after this order only 4 remained stick to the correct Aqeeda. These four were Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal, Muhammad bin Nuh,.Sajjada and Qawariri. Because of fear second day Sajjada and 3^rd day also backtracked.Now only two remained stick to the Aqeeda of Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat These glorious two were 1.Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal, 2.Muhammad bin Nuh. These two were sent to Mamoon with HATHKADI in there hand” (Tareekh e Dawat O AzeematVol 1 page 95). 

A practical case of muslim glory and intellectual victory

I will advice every muslim to read the whole story and the hardship faced by Imam and final victory of Imam Ahmad (R.A.).

Imam Ahmad has himself narrated the whole story. (Tareekhul Islam Az Zahbi translation page 41-49).

A sufficient detail history of Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal and Imam Abul Hasan Ashari has been included in the book Tareekh e dawat o azeemat (Vol.1) by sheikh Abul Hasan Ali Nadwi.(or Its translation in English is by name of “Saviors of Islamic Sprit”. Both books are freely available on internet as PDF).

You will cry with Joy by knowing the glorious moment of Islamic history. 

Arrival of Mutazillah other deviated Aqeedah sects around 300 Hijri

All sunni muslim groups (All other than Shia) OF MUSLIM WORLD come in either of the two categories.

1.They are 

1.    Ashari-Maturidi School of Aqeedah (95% OF Scholard/Ulemas)

2.    Salafi ( 3-5 % of Ulemas 

Letus know the backgroung and situation for the developement of these school of Aqeedah.

 NEED AND CIRCUMSTANCES OF DEVELOPEMENT OF ASHARI-MATURIDI AQEEDAH

 Strategies for dealing with deviated thought of past like Muatazila and Jehmia, Halwia and Qadria etc.

Muatazeli :This school was developed between the 8th and 10th centuries(200-300Hijri).  Mu’tazili thought relies heavily on logic,and Greek philosophy. Between 200-300 hijri this Fitna became very serious because of patronage from King Mamoon and Muatasim. By the grace of Allah it has no longer any following,among present day muslim.There is no need to know further about as muatazelli,it was a fitna and knowledge about is not a kind of knowledge that Rasulullah sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam has asked to attain and it is of no use in Akhirah.Similarly Jehmia and Qadria were also deviated.Thanks to Allah as they are not surviving anymore.

Who Was Abul Hasan Ashari and What was his approach

All sunni muslim groups (All other than Shia) OF MUSLIM WORLD come in either of the two categories.

1.They are 

1.    Ashari-Maturidi School of Aqeedah (95% OF Scholard/Ulemas)

2.    Salafi ( 3-5 % of Ulemas 

Letus know the backgroung and situation for the developement of these school of Aqeedah.

 NEED AND CIRCUMSTANCES OF DEVELOPEMENT OF ASHARI-MATURIDI AQEEDAH

 Strategies for dealing with deviated thought of past like Muatazila and Jehmia, Halwia and Qadria etc.

Muatazeli :This school was developed between the 8th and 10th centuries(200-300Hijri).  Mu’tazili thought relies heavily on logic,and Greek philosophy. Between 200-300 hijri this Fitna became very serious because of patronage from King Mamoon and Muatasim. By the grace of Allah it has no longer any following,among present day muslim.There is no need to know further about as muatazelli,it was a fitna and knowledge about is not a kind of knowledge that Rasulullah sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam has asked to attain and it is of no use in Akhirah.Similarly Jehmia and Qadria were also deviated.Thanks to Allah as they are not surviving anymore.

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POSITION OF AHLE SUNNAT AGAINST MUATAZELLA 

1.In 2-3 hundred Hijri so many deviated and wrong Aqeeda thought came to islamic intellectual circle under the influence of greek philosphy.Muatazelis were most prominent among them as they got patronage from Abbasi Khaleefa Mammon and Moatasim

To counter the wrong Aqeeda and approach of Muatazeli ,and others deviated groups, Ahle sunnat Wal Jamaat side was initially led by Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal(R.A) and the final assult was led by Imam Abul Hasan Ali Ashari (R.A) (Born in 260 Hijri).Imam Abul Hasan Ashari actually has put the final nail in the coffin of Muatazilla.

Muslim Ummah between 200-300 Hijri

           The danger was very acute and eminent, with the help of Muslim king Mamoon and Muatasim the follower of greek philosophy in the name of Muatazila etc had became successful in influencing good number of intellectual class/philosopher/thinker of muslim Ummah. Our Intellectual started coming under the impression that Greek philosophy is superior and they started making yardstick of it to judge the principles of Quran and Ahadith.

 Gravity of the situation of muslim Intellectual as there were influenced by greek philosphy and terrified by the Rulers (Mamoon and Muatasim)

All the Muslim intellectuals were influenced and terrified.One can assess the gravity of the situation by this historical fact. Maulana Abul Hasan Ali Nadwi describe in these words “ Famous Ulema were collected and talked and written statement and answer were taken ,Mamoon became very furious after seeing the answer,And ordered to kill two (Shaikh Baseer ibne waleed & Sheikh Ibrahim Ibnul Menhdi) of them.And ordered that all those who still have aqeeda other than Khalqe Quran should be brought infront of him.They were 30,But after this order only 4 remained stick to the correct Aqeeda. These four were Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal, Muhammad bin Nuh,.Sajjada and Qawariri. Because of fear second day Sajjada and 3^rd day also backtracked.Now only two remained stick to the Aqeeda of Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat These glorious two were 1.Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal, 2.Muhammad bin Nuh. These two were sent to Mamoon with HATHKADI in there hand” (Tareekh e Dawat O AzeematVol 1 page 95). 

A practical case of muslim glory and intellectual victory

I will advice every muslim to read the whole story and the hardship faced by Imam and final victory of Imam Ahmad (R.A.).

Imam Ahmad has himself narrated the whole story. (Tareekhul Islam Az Zahbi translation page 41-49).

A sufficient detail history of Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal and Imam Abul Hasan Ashari has been included in the book Tareekh e dawat o azeemat (Vol.1) by sheikh Abul Hasan Ali Nadwi.(or Its translation in English is by name of “Saviors of Islamic Sprit”. Both books are freely available on internet as PDF).

You will cry with Joy by knowing the glorious moment of Islamic history. 

After Imam Hanbal death

After Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal death Muatazell again surfaced with some other issues and this time with much logical and philosphical preparation. 

Then Imam Abul Hasan Ashari led the Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat to end this fitna finally. 
  

To deal with the Fitna Imam Abul Hasan Ashari used a two  way approach.

First Part of his approach

1.    He Emphasised that muslim should know and believe the aqeeda as detailed in quran and Ahadith as explained by sahaba and great scholars and Imams of first few generation of muslim

2. No philosophical and interpretational approach (Taweel is commonly used word for this among scholar) will be applied to explain it.

2.  Second part of his approach

To counter the philosophical explanation and approach of misled group like Muatazila, al-Mujassamah etc the philosophical and interpretaional approach should be applied. Because each subject has its own words and language. By the help and bounty of Allah He proved through words ,language of Logic and philosophy  also that Quranic Ayats and Ahadith explaining Aqeeda are correct in their meaning. 

He established the supremacy of Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat over all other groups who were claiming themselves as Ratioal,logical and philosophical.

         By the help of Allah He not only deafted and chased away the groups of Deviated Aqeeda ,He also saved Ummat from a big catastroph.

Abul Hasan Ashari was not an advocator of interpretational approach.He brought these philosophical and logical approach to deal with the specific situation.(Out of necessity).
 You can understand it by this incidence

“One of his student Abu Abdullah bin Khafeef asked Imam Abul Hasan Ashari that I could not understand one point why you remain silent initially and give time to Muatazelli.You are of such capability that you can start the debate and then you can defeat them.Imam Ashari replied “I donot like to utter these sentences and points by my own tongue but once it is utterd by anyone then to counter it and to prove it as wrong becomes duty of people with right path” (Tabeen e kizbul muftari page 95,Tareekhe dawat o Azeemat Vol.1 page 107).

With this it is clear that he used these Interpretational approach to deal with the misled group only.

He himself written his position on Aqeeda in his book in these words

“My Aqeeda on which I am is to hold Quran Majeed And Sunnat Rasool with firm Hand and to accept and comply from scholars and Hadeeth only,I am firm on this Maslak, and I am adherent and follower of Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal (May Allah increase his level in Akhrat and give him the best reward).Whosoever is away from his Maslak I am away from him. Because he was such a Great Scholer and complete leader  and Allah clarified the right through him and weaned the wrong on his hand.Allah glorified the Sirate Mustaqeem and downed the Ahle Bidat ,and the spoiler,and those who create confusion on the hand of Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal.May Allah bless his mercy on the great Imam”

Imam Abul Hasan Ashari thought 

           
           1.He was of the view that source of Aqeeda is only Quran and Sunnat and explanation of Salfussalihin.

         2. But as under the influence of Greek philosophy issue is already burning and as philosophy is based on some hypothetical man made terms that is obviously not in quran and hadeeth, to remain silent at this juncture only because that these term are not in quran and hadith is a grave mistake.

        3.This silence will undermine the superiority of Quran and Sunnat and to intellectual class (muslims & Nonmuslims) it will be considered as weakness. (Nauzubillah).

       4. Already muslim youth mind and a good number of intellectual and kings were under influence and supremacy of the greek philosophy.

         5. So to counter them and to support the Aqeeda of Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat ther is no harm in using logic and philosophical approach/hypothetical philosophical words prevailing at that time. He considered it not only necessary rather Jihad of that time.

          6. He was of the view that sahaba did not used these words because they did not faced the situation.

       7. In making Ta'weel,(Interpretational approach) he did not intend to oppose the Salaf, but to oppose the misled groups. He has stated if he was in the era of the Salaf, he would not have made any Ta'weel.

ALLAH MADE HIM SUCCESSFUL IN HIS EN DEVOUR 

 
    1.    He became successful in stopping the flood of Muatazellah, and leashed a fresh blood in muslim Ummah and gave confidence to Ahle Sunnat to counter any further intellectual assault on the Aqeeda of Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat.  

2. And he finished the job he undertook for saving ummat Aqeedah  in the best possible manner.

3.Apart from verbal argument with Muatazellah he has written so many books also to neate the Aqeeda of naturist,atheist and other non believers. Some people has counted number of his books as 300 hundred.(Ref Tabeene kizbul Muftari).

Thats why he is regarded as Imam Of Ahle Sunnat.He has been described by Shah waliullah (R.A) as the Mujaddid of 3^RDCentury Hijri.He died in 324 Hijri and on his death it was announced that today Nasir e Sunnat has died.(From Saviors of Islamic sprit in short and after editing)

 May Allah give him best reward.

(Reproduce from http://aqeedahinislam.blogspot.in with some edition)

ASHARI SALAFI HANAFI MUNAZRA IN PICTURE

I am Talking about secterianism within so called Sunnis...(Not taliking about shias Qadiyanis).

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Aqeedah difference Damage done by ignorants

Here with groups we are Referring only to only two surviving schools of Aqeedah among mainstream muslims.(98% of Muslims)
 They are 

1.    Ashari-Maturidi School of Aqeedah

2.    Salafi school

1.Aqeedah of Islam is very simple well explained in Quran and Ahadith and free from any confusion.


2. Sectrrian Scholars and Group Mentality has made it most controversial and confusing issue.Internet forums and discussions among common muslims has further complicated the issue.


3. 98 % of the ISSUES THAT ARE projected as difference in Aqeedah Matter is not at all Aqeedah Matter.


4. Group leader use the term of Aqeedah difference/deviated Aqeedah for other group to garner support for their group and to Malign other group.


You will find muslims are searching on Aqeedah differences on internet like 


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